Mormon 4 and Moroni 9 Compared

John W. Welch

In reading Mormon 4–5 and Moroni 9, look for unique points mentioned in both texts that help us see that Moroni 9 was written in response to actual atrocities, which Moroni had not yet heard of, and at a time when Moroni was not close by Mormon’s side. As Alan Miner has also concluded, I am of the opinion that Moroni 9 was likely written sometime around AD 375–376 (Mormon 4:15–16; 5:3).

Mormon

Moroni

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4:2, 14

9:7–9

taking prisoners is particularly mentioned, only in these two places in the book of Mormon

4:10

9:3–5

anger is mentioned only in these verses in the book of Mormon; anger is in opposition to Jesus’s first mandate in 3 Nephi 12:22

4:11–21

9:8, 16

unspeakable suffering; human sacrifice unto idols; feed women the flesh of their husbands; no water; widows left to wander with no food; these things appear here and nowhere else in the whole Book of Mormon

4:13

9:2

a battle in which Nephites did not conquer; first time this happens in Mormon’s lifetime

4:12, 15

9:9–10

extraordinary Nephite excesses, revenge and wickedness

4:18

9:24

swept off as dew before the sun, on the run, many desertions

4:23

9:24

Mormon takes up all of Ammaron’s records; Mormon has records to give Moroni

5:1

9:6

Mormon repented of his oath not to lead any longer; Mormon explains why he retracted his vow and is now not quitting, “if we should cease to labor, we should be brought under condemnation”

4:11; 5:8–11

9:19

reluctance to even mention some atrocities

The last few of these points in this list make it likely that Mormon first wrote about these events in Mormon 4 and then drafted the personal letter to Moroni in Moroni 9 based on that record.

Further Reading

Joseph M. Spencer, “On the Dating of Moroni 8–9,” Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship 22 (2016): 131–148.

Alan C. Miner, “A Chronological Setting for the Epistles of Mormon to Moroni,” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 3, no 2. (1994): 94–113.

John W. Welch Notes

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