Once again the conflict between faithful Alma and unfaithful Korihor is presented as one of contrasting testimonies. Alma says yes, Korihor says no. Since the discussion is about things of religion and the Spirit, there is no proof available. Korihor understands this, and demands proof precisely because he expects that Alma will not provide it. By refusing to make the Spiritual physical, Korihor may maintain that the refusal was because of the lack of reality of the Spiritual.